Zanthoxylum ID

[amh]

Does anyone know which species of zanthoxylum this is?

The location is south east Texas Hill Country under heavy tree canopy.

 

Edited June 19, 2023 by amh

[Silas_Sancona]

8 minutes ago, amh said:

Does anyone know which species of zanthoxylum this is?

The location is south east Texas Hill Country under heavy tree canopy.

 

Possibly : https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/170404-Zanthoxylum-hirsutum
 

[amh]

2 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Possibly : https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/170404-Zanthoxylum-hirsutum
 

Thanks, there is an overlap in range with Zanthoxylum fagara, but the leaves didn't look quite right.

[Silas_Sancona]

2 minutes ago, amh said:

Thanks, there is an overlap in range with Zanthoxylum fagara, but the leaves didn't look quite right.

Generally, Z. fagara  leaves will have a distinct look, or are quite small (  obvious on FL specimens i'd see all the time.. ) That said, certainly possible one could encounter natural crosses where two sps ranges overlap.. which would create a wider variety of leaf shapes / sizes seen.

 

[amh]

21 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Generally, Z. fagara  leaves will have a distinct look, or are quite small (  obvious on FL specimens i'd see all the time.. ) That said, certainly possible one could encounter natural crosses where two sps ranges overlap.. which would create a wider variety of leaf shapes / sizes seen.

 

The leaves of Zanthoxylum fagara remind me a bit of trifoliate orange, in the past, I thought the plant in question looked closer to Z. fagara, but now it is looking like Z. hirsutum. The appearance change could just be maturation.

[Silas_Sancona]

4 hours ago, amh said:

The leaves of Zanthoxylum fagara remind me a bit of trifoliate orange, in the past, I thought the plant in question looked closer to Z. fagara, but now it is looking like Z. hirsutum. The appearance change could just be maturation.

...Miniature version of that,  or various Bursera w / similar looking leaf arrangement, or a couple of our Sumacs.  

When is saw the picture and dug around, Z. hirsutum  was a spot on match ..compared to fagara. Hybrids could lean either way.

[amh]

19 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

...Miniature version of that,  or various Bursera w / similar looking leaf arrangement, or a couple of our Sumacs.  

When is saw the picture and dug around, Z. hirsutum  was a spot on match ..compared to fagara. Hybrids could lean either way.

It is a definite zanthoxylum, but the leaves used to be rounder. I usually see the leaves regrowing after the caterpillars have defoliated the plants.