Show off your Coccothrinax!

[Justin31703]

Coccothrinax is probably my favorite species of palms. I am interested in seeing photos of the Coccothrinax in your gardens! Some highly rare ones would be cool to see. 

[xoRudy]

Miraguama 

[aztropic]

borhidiana X miraguama 

 

aztropic

Mesa, Arizona

 

 

[Cocoa Beach Jason]

borhidiana 

[aztropic]

Coccothrinax crinita - The old man palm. Just bought this one from a local nursery. Will be planting it in the ground here in AZ tomorrow. 

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

[aztropic]

Coccothrinax macroglossa. This has been the fastest growing coco in my collection.

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

[palmfriend]

Very nice thread!

@Cocoa Beach Jason

May I ask how old this one is?

 

Lars

 

[Barry]

This is  my “Cuban Island” as I refer to it. 
 

Coccothrinax:

azul

bermudezil

borhidiana

crinata

hybrid azul/crinata

miraguama

miraguama sp. roseocarpa 
 

viridescens

 

Copernicia:

baileyana

fallaensis

macroglossa

 

Pseudophoenix sargentii

Zombia x coccothrinax hybrid

Hemithrinax ekmaniana

[Cocoa Beach Jason]

On 3/12/2022 at 12:51 AM, palmfriend said:

Very nice thread!

@Cocoa Beach Jason

May I ask how old this one is?

 

Lars

 

This one might be about 5-6 years old from about 1 gallon or so (I don’t remember for sure). It had a setback from some bug but pulled out of it. I got it from Caribbean Palms Nursery in Loxahatchee.  Purportedly from Cuban seed. 

[Dr. George]

C. crinata planted out from 5 gal in 2010...

 

a year or 2 later...

 

and now.

 

[Caribbean Palms]

[Frond-friend42]

Mine's about 2 years from when I got the seed. Borhidiana.

[palmfriend]

14 hours ago, Cocoa Beach Jason said:

This one might be about 5-6 years old from about 1 gallon or so (I don’t remember for sure). It had a setback from some bug but pulled out of it. I got it from Caribbean Palms Nursery in Loxahatchee.  Purportedly from Cuban seed. 

Thank you!

I am just asking because my C.borhidiana is now exactly six years old. (The only sprout I got out of ten.)

I just recently repotted it from a smaller pot, hoping to incease the speed of growth... (as scale a 16.9oz/0.5ltr can)

I am wondering how long it will take to reach the size of your's... (a couple hundred years I guess...) 

 

Lars

 

[Cindy Adair]

So many gorgeous Coccothrinax here! Thanks to all for posting!

I don’t have very many in the ground and some of questionable genetics. I enjoy them just the same!

This one was called C. miraguama roseocarpa.

And this name of C. crinita fits the look.

 

Below is what I bought as C. fragrans but it seems prettier than the images I have seen of that species.

This one is likely C. moaensis from seed I collected in Moa, Cuba 2014. Still in a pot sunk in the ground.

Lost label Coccothrinax below.

For me these are slow, but then most are from seeds or seedlings. Not at all common for sale in western PR.

[aztropic]

Coccothrinax montana. Native to the Dominican Republic. Looks very similar to scoparia,but produces white fruit,instead of the purple most other cocos display.

 

aztropic

Mesa, Arizona

[aztropic]

Some of my 5 gallon runts. Crazy as it sounds,these are mostly the last ones left from each batch of seeds I grew. People always buy the biggest,nicest looking plants first,and I end up planting the runts into my own collection.

Even at this age of 15 years,a lot of my Coccothrinax species look very similar to each other. Lose a coco label at a young age,and you may not be able to tell it's true identity for many years.

Left to right: scoparia,crinita brevicrinis,miraguama.

 

aztropic

Mesa, Arizona

[Cocoa Beach Jason]

On 3/13/2022 at 11:23 AM, Cocoa Beach Jason said:

This one might be about 5-6 years old from about 1 gallon or so (I don’t remember for sure). It had a setback from some bug but pulled out of it. I got it from Caribbean Palms Nursery in Loxahatchee.  Purportedly from Cuban seed. 

Purportedly isn’t the right word for this. I believe this was from Cuban seed is what I should have said. I can’t edit that post for some reason. Caribbean Palms Nursery had some amazing coccothrinax when I was there.  

[aztropic]

Coccothrinax argentata. Grew this one from seed I collected in habitat from big pine key, Florida. VERY slow,but steady grower for me.

 

aztropic

Mesa, Arizona

[aztropic]

Coccothrinax crinita. Recently purchased at this size,this is how it looks incorporated into the existing landscape. I let it borrow my sunglasses for the photo op...

 

aztropic

Mesa, Arizona

[aztropic]

Coccothrinax miraguama. Very stiff fronds,with bright silver undersides. Would be a great subject / focal point planted by itself with night time illumination making the silver undersides pop!

Small Coccothrinax fragrans to it's left.

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

[aztropic]

Coccothrinax borhidiana. Another hairy looking palm like the old man,but of a much sturdier construction. Highly recommended as one of the best looking of the species.

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

[Looking Glass]

3 hours ago, aztropic said:

Coccothrinax borhidiana. Another hairy looking palm like the old man,but of a much sturdier construction. Highly recommended as one of the best looking of the species.

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

 

My 2 favorite Cocos are probably Miraguama and Borhidiana.   Love those stiff leaves.  Great job!  That’s a looker right there!  

[mike in kurtistown]

Coccothrinax IN HAWAII!! Actually, yes. Here are a few. Hat for scale in some of these.

First up is macroglossa, planted out in May 2013. The pattern of leaf base fibers and less persistence of wax on the leaves separate this from spirituana.

Next is a palm I grew from seeds from a palm hobbyist as borhidiana. It has grown relatively fast, being planted out in January 2014. I have been advised, based on certain characteristics, that it is a hybrid. the source garden was also growing readii and litoralis.

Next up is moaensis. I planted five of these. Three languished for unknown reasons. This one is the best. Planted out in September 2014.

Then, we have miraguama, maybe. Seeds donated to the CFPACS seedbank by a private grower as this species. Comparing leaves with pics I have on file, it looks more like alexandri. Planted out in March 2015.   Two of the short infructescences (the newer one yellow) have developing fruits.

Finally, argentea. A second pic shows the very silvery leaf underside (I know, abaxial surface). Planted out in March 2016.

Not all my Coccothrinax efforts have been successful. A nice montana in the ground died for unkown reasons. Seedlings of garciana, pseudorigida, littoralis, and boschiana have not seemed to be interested in growing. But my successes are very pleasing.

 

[Justin31703]

6 hours ago, mike in kurtistown said:

Coccothrinax IN HAWAII!! Actually, yes. Here are a few. Hat for scale in some of these.

First up is macroglossa, planted out in May 2013. The pattern of leaf base fibers and less persistence of wax on the leaves separate this from spirituana.

Next is a palm I grew from seeds from a palm hobbyist as borhidiana. It has grown relatively fast, being planted out in January 2014. I have been advised, based on certain characteristics, that it is a hybrid. the source garden was also growing readii and litoralis.

Next up is moaensis. I planted five of these. Three languished for unknown reasons. This one is the best. Planted out in September 2014.

Then, we have miraguama, maybe. Seeds donated to the CFPACS seedbank by a private grower as this species. Comparing leaves with pics I have on file, it looks more like alexandri. Planted out in March 2015.   Two of the short infructescences (the newer one yellow) have developing fruits.

Finally, argentea. A second pic shows the very silvery leaf underside (I know, abaxial surface). Planted out in March 2016.

Not all my Coccothrinax efforts have been successful. A nice montana in the ground died for unkown reasons. Seedlings of garciana, pseudorigida, littoralis, and boschiana have not seemed to be interested in growing. But my successes are very pleasing.

 

That moaensis is impressive. That is probably the largest one I’ve seen in cultivation. Where did you get it? 

[mike in kurtistown]

Justin,

Seeds from Rare Palm Seeds in 2007. Since I lost three, it's not easy here.

 

[Rickybobby]

This is my fav thread in along. Time. Love these palms. Here is brown from seed 4 year old crinita and my 7g crinita I imported from Florida 3 years ago!

[Sabal Steve]

Here’s a few growing in San Diego. They all have been steady growers:  Thrinax Radiata (front), Cocothrinax Argentata (left), Cocothrinax Fragrans (rear left with the silver hues).  There’s also a small Cocothrinax Macroglossa ‘Azul’ that’s done well.  

[Sabal Steve]

Just now, Sabal Steve said:

Here’s a few growing in San Diego. They all have been steady growers:  Thrinax Radiata (front), Cocothrinax Argentata (left), Cocothrinax Fragrans (rear left with the silver hues).  There’s also a small Cocothrinax Macroglossa ‘Azul’ that’s done well.  

[aztropic]

Coccothrinax boschiana. 2 year old seedlings. Second picture shows native habitat in the Dominican Republic,where I collected the seeds.

 

aztropic 

Mesa, Arizona

[Looking Glass]

11 hours ago, aztropic said:

Coccothrinax boschiana. 2 year old seedlings. Second picture shows native habitat in the Dominican Republic,where I collected the seeds.

 

aztropic 

Mesa, Arizona

Man, you’ve got patience….   Respect.   2 years to “blade of grass” size.   Those habitat ones must be 1,000 years old.  

[aztropic]

 My boschiana seedlings are already HUGE,compared to when they first sprout! Very delicate seedlings...

 

aztropic

Mesa, Arizona

Edited March 21, 2022 by aztropic

[aztropic]

Here's a link to a drone video of boschiana in habitat. Very hot,dry,inhospitable environment,but the scenery is breathtaking!

 

 

aztropic

Mesa, Arizona

[Tracy]

First up is one acquired as a 1 gallon Coccothrinax argentata which I have been informed is not a correct id as it has grown.  It is now in the Coccothrinax no ID category.

[Tracy]

Next up is the one acquired as a Coccothrinax borhidiana hybrid.  The cross is unknown, but the leaves do have a contrast between the flat green top color and the white underneath.

[Tracy]

And another unknown, likely another hybrid.  The only Coccothrinax I am growing that I have a firm handle on is my Coccothrinax crinita.  It seems this genus has a prolific propensity for promiscuity.

[aztropic]

Truth be told,most of the Coccothrinax and Copernicia palms George Sparkman brought back to CA were known hybrids the Florida growers gleaned from their stock. He got large plants for little money,but it is a nightmare trying to identify or label those trees as a specific species. Still,all those hybrids have grown up to be beautiful specimens,regardless of their pedigree.

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

[Valhallalla]

This is my 30-ish year old Coccothrinax. I acquired it as C, alta though it is likely a hybrid. I got it from the late Gertrude Cole. Anybody that knew her knows she had a thing for this genus and she had numerous species in her garden plus large clumps of Zombia with which to cross pollinate. It is around 25-30 feet tall. You can see it towers over the nearby Ptychosperma elegans which is older by several years (the Adonidias are younger). It is just about as tall as my Veitchias which are roughly the same age. It has been flowering for years but has never set seed. It is difficult to see in the photos but the undersides of the leaves are quite silvery.

[Frond-friend42]

To compare with the boschiana straplings, I have fragrans, front left, and borhidiana, front right and just behind. For those interested in such esoteric topics as differentiating seedlings:

[Tracy]

2 hours ago, aztropic said:

Truth be told,most of the Coccothrinax and Copernicia palms George Sparkman brought back to CA were known hybrids the Florida growers gleaned from their stock. He got large plants for little money,but it is a nightmare trying to identify or label those trees as a specific species. Still,all those hybrids have grown up to be beautiful specimens,regardless of their pedigree.

I concur.  Most of the Cuban species he brought were hybrids and he represented them as such.  The true species among them were always few and he sold for more than the hybrids.  Of the 3 above I posted, only the C borhidiana hybrid came from George, and he was very up front that it was a hybrid.  The other two photographed were from Phil/Jungle Music here in Encinitas.  George marked up the ones he brought in, but he did have to deal with the permits & freight and the ever present potential loss of plants during transportation to California.  We discussed how some people were perplexed by the cost here compared to Florida for similar size plants, but they weren't factoring in all the costs.  Fortunately the inventory flipped pretty darn fast due to pent up demand for larger specimens here in California.  I'll have to snap current photos of my 2 known Coccothrinax species, both from George, the crinita and a miraguama.

[Looking Glass]

I’ve got a bunch of babies, and mutts, and baby-mutts.   High hopes for the future though.   
 

Miraguama ssp miraguama

Miraguama ssp roseocarpa

Miraguama (always streaky)

Borhidiana (turned out hybrid)

Crinita (x miraguama I’d guess)

Borhidiana - tiny slow hybrid.