Lets see yours

[Ken Johnson]

I thought it may be fun to see how many of you have a Heterospathe picture that you would share in this thread. I will post others palms too to see who else has one of what I have. Sound like fun?

Heteros only in this thread.

[Knnn]

Some little ones........

[bgl]

Ken,

so what species is that (your photo)??

Here's the latest addition to the genus: H. longipes (formerly Alsmithia longipes), a new inflorescence.

Bo

[bgl]

And a full view. It's the slender palm in the middle. Never holds more than four fronds or so.

[Kris]

Dear Knn,

the picture in post no.2 had impressed me.and i have not seen plastic pots in that Color_white.

And iam of the belief that black color retains warmth better tham lighter shades.while white pots would be a blessing for warm hot climates like india from where i hail from.

One family one tree..

[SubTropicRay]

Just a side note that H. elata possesses more cold tolerance one would think.  Mine has seen 29F with only slight/moderate leaf tip damage.  I add this in case anyone is considering this for their "marginal" garden.

Ray

[Jeff Wilson]

Heterospathe sp in Old Miakka, FL.

[Walter John]

My H.phillippinensis is doing crap hence no photo. See if it improves after this winter.

[Jeff Searle]

(Wal @ Jul. 25 2006,08:59)

QUOTE

My H.phillippinensis is doing crap hence no photo. See if it improves after this winter.

Wal,

   I love an honest man ! LOL  Juice it up with some TLC...

[Jeff Wilson]

I thought I put this photo up already.....

[SubTropicRay]

There's a little bit of everything at the Bishock ranch.

[spockvr6]

(Ray, Tampa @ Jul. 25 2006,07:51)

QUOTE

Just a side note that H. elata possesses more cold tolerance one would think.  Mine has seen 29F with only slight/moderate leaf tip damage.  I add this in case anyone is considering this for their "marginal" garden.

Ray

Ray-

Same here.

I have a small one in the ground (roughly 3 ft tall) and Feb 14th didnt seem to bother it much.  Although it was 34F at 5 ft above the ground on that morning, right at the ground level I measured 28F.  So, a good part of this palm saw temps below freezing.  

But...I wouldnt say these palms are fast.....  

[Gileno Machado]

I have a few seedlings of H. minor sitting in small pots in the shadehouse...It's definetly a species that should be avoided if you like plants that grow up fast...

[Ken Johnson]

Bo,

Mine is elata but I was glad to see the other species!

[redant]

Mine finally throwing out a couple of new fronds

[spockvr6]

Looking good Doug.

Mine has sped up since my last post in this thread.  Its now about 6 ft to the highest leaf.  Its actually a double palm, but one is growing far faster than the other.

[glbower]

Is anyone having trouble growing H. elata in our alkaline Florida soils?  Doesn't appear to be a problem.

[redant]

(glbower @ Sep. 11 2006,13:10)

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Is anyone having trouble growing H. elata in our alkaline Florida soils?  Doesn't appear to be a problem.

While I'm unaware of there requirements (PH), mine is growing under a bunch of pines with a bunch of pine straw (needles). They tend to make the soil acid. I have never tested the ph of my sand but the pine has to lower the PH.

[Neofolis]

These will probably be the smallest specimens that get posted here.  My two H.minor seedlings, just after I received them and potted them up.  One is already dead now, but the other is hanging in there.

I hope to add H.negrosensis, scitula and woodfordiana to the collection some time soon.

[paulgila]

neofolis--are your palms mostly in the ground?from 1st glance at the climate info on your posts it doesn't seem that different from here except in july your "low" is lower

& in january your "high" is lower,but not by that much!

i didn't think it was that temperate in the UK ???

[Neofolis]

Yes the UK is fairly temperate in terms of lack of extremes.  My palms are all potted, largely due to lack of space and a totally concrete covered garden.

Although our winter lows are not excessively low, they can be low for a long time and, without daytime heat for the palms to recover, it can be a problem.  Our lack of summer heat also means that palms take longer to recover from bad winters.  I have a few hardier species facing the elements, Phoenix, Trachycarpus, etc., all of the others are in a heated polytunnel, hence sticking with small/dwarf species.

[paulgila]

thanks for taking the time to enlighten me a bit on this!

[elHoagie]

(pohonkelapa @ Sep. 12 2006,12:46)

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from 1st glance at the climate info on your posts it doesn't seem that different from here except in july your "low" is lower

& in january your "high" is lower,but not by that much!

i didn't think it was that temperate in the UK ???

Are we looking at the same stats?  The average in JULY for the UK is 22/11.  The average in JANUARY for downtown LA is 20/10....

[paulgila]

i was looking at fahrenheit.thats the "F".

[bgl]

As Neofolis points out, daytime temps during the winter would definitely be a major concern. Keep in mind, Los Angeles is roughly at 33 degrees North. Neofolis is probably right around 50 degrees North. Daylight during the winter months is very limited. Because of the short days, and the fact that the sun doesn't get very high, there's not that much difference in night and day temps. It's going to remain cool, if not cold, 24 hours a day (winter).

I remember when we lived in Poway, CA. During spring and fall it might be 36-38F/+2 to +3C early morning but in the afternoon it might be 86F/30C. This will never, EVER, happen in northern Europe.

[paulgila]

thanks all for the discussion.i think the raw data can be a bit misleading...

[DoomsDave]

Kim!

Great pics, but I notice there are no pix from California . . . .

dave

[Moose]

[paulgila]

no one ever answered kris about the "white plastic pots," which seem to be none other than common styrofoam cups.

i assume thats why you bumped this old thread,mr.knuckle.

[Moose]

These are great palms but I have found hardly any threads on Heterospathe. It seems to be an partially ignored genus.

Ron.

[realarch]

Picked up a one gal. labeled as H. phillipsii. The vendor said there were 3 stems in the pot so there would be no confusion as to solitary or clumping.

Nice bronze color to the leaves and hopefully it should nicely.

Tim

[bayside mike]

Not the best pictures but here is one of mine in a 15 gallon pot

Heterospathe elata

[PalmGuyWC]

As I recall, H. elata likes a good bit of water. They grow beautifully in Miami.......with water. Paul Drummond had some growing in the front in S. Miami and hundreds of seeds would germinate under his trees. They were like a ground cover and had to be regularly pulled out. The new foliage was wine colored to red and very attractive. Growing in street medians without regualr watering and fertilizer, they didn't look so good.

Dick

[palmislandRandy]

I have a larger one, but I liked this photo of one of my elatas !

[Geoff]

I certainly cannot grow this genus here in Los Angeles, but I have seen a number of these grown in Hawaii or elsewhere, so someone has not forgotten them:

Heterospathe brevicaulis, Heterospathe cagayanensis, Heterospathe deliculata, Heterospathe elata and this last one, Heterospathe glauca is most curious to me as it has a crownshaft... Jeff Marcus has assured me this is the real thing, but I did not know Heterospathes could have crownshafts...

[Geoff]

More Heterospathes: Heterospathe intermedia, Heterospathe longipes (aka Alsmithia longipes), Heterospathe micrantha, Heterospathe minor and Heterospathe phillipsii

[Mandrew968]

Very nice photos, Geoff! Does anyone have any info on Heterospathe glauca? Just picked up two and was wondering if anyone had any experience...

[Mandrew968]

One of my Heterospathe longipes.

[realarch]

Here's a current shot of the little one in post # 31. I'm not so sure what it is anymore, but it's a showy palm and trouble free.

[LJG]

Tim, maybe Heterospathe negrosensis?