Dypsis tsaravoasira?

[richnorm]

The seed came in around the mid 1990's. I think that I read somewhere that they had now been identified as tsaravoasira (which was previously confused with nauseosa) and that ceracea was only recently re-discovered after a 50 year abscence. The new leaf is pale. Blinking slow!

Thoughts anyone?

cheers Rich

[BS Man about Palms]

I have a few and you summed it up quite well!

[bgl]

Rich,

That definitely looks like the true D. tsaravoasira. And yes, this palm was initially sold under the Dypsis ceracea name (mid/late 1990s), then around 2001 someone realized it couldn't be D. ceracea, and it was then referred to as D. nauseosa. Until July 2008 when Dr. John Dransfield visited the Big Island and positively identified these palms as the true D. tsaravoasira. And yes, they always (in my experience) open up with a pale pinkish new frond. Here are a few photos of different sized D. tsaravoasira.

Bo-Göran

[Philpalm]

Rich,

That definitely looks like the true D. tsaravoasira. And yes, this palm was initially sold under the Dypsis ceracea name (mid/late 1990s), then around 2001 someone realized it couldn't be D. ceracea, and it was then referred to as D. nauseosa. Until July 2008 when Dr. John Dransfield visited the Big Island and positively identified these palms as the true D. tsaravoasira. And yes, they always (in my experience) open up with a pale pinkish new frond. Here are a few photos of different sized D. tsaravoasira.

Bo-Göran

Bo>Was that also named as one of the STUMPY Dypsis back in the 90s. I remember growing that one always had that nice new pinkish leaf, very nice.

[bgl]

Phil,

I don't believe so. As far as I know, there were two palms referred to as "Stumpy". The first one, sometimes also called "Maria's Stumpy" in Australia, is (I'm fairly certain) the palm that's been described as Dypsis robusta. The second "Stumpy" has been properly described as Dypsis carlsmithii.

Bo-Göran

[richnorm]

Many thanks for the confirmation and photos. If anyone can provide detail on cultural requirements, habitat and growing experiences (particularly in cool climates such as mine) I would be most grateful. Mine grows like a submarine with some leaflets emerging from under the soil! I know they have been known to survive our winters outside for many years.

cheers

Rich

[Tyrone]

Many thanks for the confirmation and photos. If anyone can provide detail on cultural requirements, habitat and growing experiences (particularly in cool climates such as mine) I would be most grateful. Mine grows like a submarine with some leaflets emerging from under the soil! I know they have been known to survive our winters outside for many years.

cheers

Rich

That's great to know that they do OK in NZ.

I bought mine from a WA Palm sale labeled as Dypsis stumpy. I never thought it was either of the two stumpy's floating around that have been described in the previous posts. In WA any Dypsis which isn't a common one is labeled "stumpy". This is one of my favourite palms in my collection and is slow, but a consistent grower. I planted it out for a while but in way too much shade. It just sat there and slowly pushed a spear out. I thought if I didn't speed it up, it wouldn't take much to completely stall it, so I dug it up and put it in a pot in a warmer sunnier location and it sped up, and always gets a pinkish new leaf. I'd love to plant it out one day, but I'd probably need to sunharden it a bit so I can plant it in a warmer/faster growing location. At the moment it's an interesting pot plant.

Best regards

Tyrone